Thursday 22 May 2008

The Kugelmass Episode

Hi, we've been reading Kugelmass for many weeks. Now I'd like you to write down your opinion as regards:

Why is it significant that he winds up chased by the verb "tener" and in a Spanish Grammar book?

Does this story have a moral?

What is the effect of Kugelmass's shifts between being in a fiction and in a "real" world? What do you think Allen accomplishes by creating a character who can move into a fictive world and, even change, that fictive world?

What does Kugelmass's magical shifts from world to world suggest about boundaries between real and fictional? Are these blurred boundaries related to his character in any way? how do they impact the reader (both those in the story and you all)?

36 comments:

male said...
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Yani said...

3. Does this story have a moral?

This story has a moral and it is that cheeting or lying can be dangerous and you may get trapped in your lies. The story also teaches us that we should accept what we have instead of feeling endlessly unsatisfied. Try to escape reality by diving into fictional world can turn against you and lead you out of reality.

Yanina.

Dinita said...
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ariel123456 said...

ariel gold 5to quimica:
I have chosen the question number 3.
I think that the story contains an important moral that I believe can be used, but must first be understood.
this person in the story shows true contempt for the other, this person imagines nonexistent worlds, so he´s imagined and done something that hurts from his wife or his psychologist.
this person is out of their boxes (this person is crazy).

Den rosen said...

Does this story has a moral?

I think that this story let us think one of the most importants thinks that human have, that is the posibility of choosing. In this story Kugelmass used it in a wrong way , cause he wanted an affair, this means that the women he had chosen first, doesn't satisfy him. For that reason i think that the moral is that first of all we have to think until doing something, because then we can regret.

Aye Viner said...

Why is it significant that he winds up chased by the verb "tener" and in a Spanish Grammar book?


I think it is important that Kugelmass winds up chased by the verb "tener" and in a Spanish Grammar book because he was very Self-seeker, he always wanted more and more, until he passed the limits, but he didn`t regret, he still wanted to have more affairs. Finally, he fell down in his own lies, he was projected into an old textbook (a Spanish Grammar book), because he have to learn the consequences of lie all the time.

Aye

Gabriel said...

Does this story has a moral?

For me this story has a moral. In this case the moral is that it is difficult that human beings learn from his mistakes, so that by failing to learn from a mistake, the man insists in somethinghe knows that may be injured. In addition, for me, "The Kugelmass Episode" responds to the proverb "all that glitters is not gold" because for Kugelmass , first, Emma was the perfect woman, however, she had her own ambitions, her own desires and her own complications. This relationship reached a point of tension such, that when Emma returns to Yonville even they didn't dismiss.

Gabriel

sheii said...

Why is it significant that he winds up chased by the verb "tener" and in a Spanish Grammar book?


I think that it is a very interesting end, beacause this pursuit is like a symbol of all that we use to have ("tener") and do not value. It is an irregular verb that changes like our wishies and our thoughts, but it is also complicated to understand and keep all the forms in order. By falling down in this word, trying to escape from his problems, Kugelmass realizes that he is now having what he deserves and he didn't learn his lesson on is previous adventure. He wants to escape always from his problems, and now, because of that, he is running for his life.

Sheila

Unknown said...

1.Why is it significant that he winds up chased by the verb "tener" and in a Spanish Grammar book?
We can imagine that Kugelmass didn´t value what he had, we know that his marriage was unhappy, but, maybe, he was unhappy because of he, because he didn´t know the value of his marriege, so he looked at the affaire with madame Bovary, but, when she couldn´t came back to the novel, she becames a problem to Kugelmass, and, again he didn´t value what he have, so, maybe it was ironic to winds up chased by the verb "to have", or maybe it was my crazy idea...

Deby, 5to Q

Javi Esses said...

2.In my opinion this is a very interesting story and it has a true moral. First of all we can say that the human never learn from his own mistakes; and it is amazing to see how selfishness and vapidity usually are stronger than love and friendship.

Juancho de la Paternal said...

For me this tale has a moral. At the history the star Kungelmass has an objetive, another person that he could love.
He was very desesperated to reach this new woman but he didn´t think in the consecuences of his acts.
So he realised that it is doing something bad when somethig bad happens to him.
This objetive, in other words, blind him. He realised, at the end, that he was in trouble when he was trying to safe his life.

Luciana said...

Does this story have a moral?

I think that this story has a moral, because the persons think that if they do what they want, everything will be ok, and nothing else matters.. but then they see that they should think what they do and what they say because that will be bad for their future.

Luciana

Leax said...

does the story has a moral?

Yes it has, kugelmas was a man who had a lot of problems with his wife and with his life,he tried to escape to tha problems entering in a book where was his dreamed woman Emma Bovary, but it took him dificult because his wife daphne beganto suspect about the un faithfulnes of her husbund. the moral is don't try to escape to your problems because it took be more dificult.

Jessica Buchbinder said...

Why is it significant that he winds up chased by the verb "tener" and in a Spanish Grammar book?

I think that this happens beacuse he didn´t realized what he had, in other words he didn´t apreciate what was around him, like his wife, his sons, his job, his life.He was always wanting somenthing more, and when he finally get it he couldn´t take care of it or worth it.


Jessica Buchbinder - 5to K "C"

Cynthia Romano said...

This story has a moral because Kugelmass have just done wrong the action and he didn`t learn, he did the same thing again.
Finally Kugelmass feel the consequence of his wrong, because he was trapped in a spanish book where he was running by the verb TO HAVE (tener)
Cynthia Romano.

Kevin said...

Does this story have a moral?

This story has a moral.
The story shows that cheating has bad consequences. Also, Kugelmass after having a bad experience with the magician, he insists going with him to have an affair and this time it had worst consequences, because he got trapped. So we can say that some people don't learn from his mistakes.


Kevin.P

ariel123456 said...

ariel gold 5to quimica:
I have chosen the question number 3.
I think that the story contains an important moral that I believe can be used, but must first be understood.
this person in the story shows true contempt for the other, this person imagines nonexistent worlds, so he´s imagined and done something that hurts from his wife or his psychologist.
this person is out of their boxes (this person is crazy).
(this is the correct text)

Natasha Tuzman said...

3. For me this story has a moral. In this case is: the human never learns till something really bad happens to him. In this story, Kugelmass wanted another affair after the bad end of his adventure with Emma Bovary and at the end he was running for his life.

Natasha

rodrigow said...

Does this story have a moral?

yes, this story has a moral.the moral of this story is that you don't have to want something if it brings bas consequences.Kugelmass wanted a lover but he not realized that go from reality to fantasy is very dangerous.

alanakd said...

Does this story have a moral?

This story has a moral and it is that if you have a problem you don't have to escape to the problems and you have to try to solve the problems without lies because if you lie the problem will be bigger and you will have more problems.

dafii said...

Does this story have a moral?

Yes, because the story shows that we have to value the things that we have, without waiting for more. Kugelmass had good things in his life, but he didn't care them, he always wanted more. We have to learn to live with the things that we can get, we have to learn to care the things that we have. Maybe one day they are not going to be with us, and is in that moment when we will miss them.

alanakd said...

Does this story have a moral?

This story has a moral and it is that if you have a problem you don't have to escape from it you have to try to solve it doing right things, without lying because if you lie the problem will be bigger and you will be more difficult to solve.

tepeerr said...

Does this story has a moral?

What this story leaves us is a moral well-known by the human raze: people doesn't value what´s arround them until they loose it. Bescause of that, we should enjoy a little more day after day, as much as possible our loved ones.

Brian.

Urifrai said...

I really enjoy the end because I think the fact that kugelmass was chased by a verb like “tener”, have a meaning, like if we don’t value or we never conform with the things we have (like Kugelmass, who didn’t appreciate what he has like his wife, his sons, etc, and he wanted more and more). He fell down in this word because he was trying to escape from his problems, and now he was having what he deserves, I mean he was having like a punishment for everything that he has done.

Matias R said...

yes, of the course th history has a moral.
Its that you must think about what you have and not about what you havent, you must appreciate what you have. We cant appreciate what we have unti, we lose it.
It also tell us cheeting or lying is not the way to fix our problems.
So is why i think this story has a moral.

Dinita said...

1.Why is it significant that he winds up chased by the verb "tener" and in a Spanish Grammar book?

In my opinion, this question is related to the moral that the story brings us. It shows us that Kugelmass, or even everybody, depreciate what we have, our own world; those things we have, and the people that are next to us. So when we don´t take care of these things we really have, we´ll finish realizing that we´ve lost them. We wont have really anything.

Dina

Cynthia Romano said...

3. Does this story have a moral?

This story has a moral because Kugelmass did a wrong action and he didn`t learn, he did the same thing again.
Finally Kugelmass felt the consequence of his mistake, because he was trapped in a spanish book where he was running by the verb TO HAVE (tener)

Cynthia Romano.

male said...

Yes, for me the story has a moral. In this case for me the moral is that Kungelmass wanted something, another woman, but he didn't think what is gonna happen next, he didn't undertand untill something that he don't like happen. And this it's happen for all the people in the world, so this is why a think that the history has a moral.
male

Anonymous said...

This story has a moral as it shows that the decisions you take are not always appropiate.
kugelmass wanted a romance, but do not want it in the real world and when that romance pass for the imagination or for the fictional world to the real world, he dont want that becuase it became a problem and a big part of the real life dont care to him because he only think in his affair and on the magical box. (he dont remember the birthday of daphne's father and the relationship with his wife daphne was bad because he think all the time in Emma.


Sabri 5Q

Aye Viner said...

Why is it significant that he winds up chased by the verb "tener" and in a Spanish Grammar book?


I think it is important that Kugelmass winds up chased by the verb "tener" and in a Spanish Grammar book because he was very Self-seeker, he always wanted more and more, until he passed the limits, but he didn`t regret, he still wanted to have more affairs. Finally, he fell down in his own lies, he was projected into an old textbook (a Spanish Grammar book), because he has to learn the consequences of lying all the time.

Aye

Yani said...

3. Does this story have a moral?

This story has a moral and it is that cheating or lying can be dangerous and you may get trapped in your lies. The story also teaches us that we should accept what we have instead of feeling endlessly unsatisfied. Try to escape reality by diving into fictional world can turn against you and lead you out of reality.

Yanina.

alan said...

It can have a moral and it is that you dont have to lie, because you may get atraped. And the story teach us to be sincerly and acept your faults. Other thing that it teach us is that we dont have to scape from de thing we did, accept them.

Alan Algamis
5°ib, advanced

alan said...

It can have a moral and it is that you dont have to lie, because you may get atraped. And the story teach us to be sincerly and acept your faults. Other thing that it teach us is that we dont have to scape from de thing we did, accept them.

Alan Algamis
5°ib, advanced

alan said...

It can have a moral and it is that you dont have to lie, because you may get atraped. And the story teach us to be sincerly and acept your faults. Other thing that it teach us is that we dont have to scape from de thing we did, accept them.

Alan Algamis
5°ib, advanced

alan said...

It can have a moral and it is that you dont have to lie, because you may get atraped. And the story teach us to be sincerly and acept your faults. Other thing that it teach us is that we dont have to scape from de thing we did, accept them.

Alan Algamis
5°ib, advanced

alan said...

It can have a moral and it is that you dont have to lie, because you may get atraped. And the story teach us to be sincerly and acept your faults. Other thing that it teach us is that we dont have to scape from de thing we did, accept them.

Alan Algamis
5°ib, advanced